| Autorius | Žinutė |
|
|
2026-04-16 10:13 #876710 |
|
Software Burbulas sprogsta pirmas, Nasdaq dar laikosi, is stipresnes medziagos nupintas tai dar gali karsto oro paimt ir daugiau
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 00:44 #876849 |
|
Cameco atrodo gerai, dugnas confirmintas. Kaip jis atrodo didesniuose intervaluose sunku sugaudyt, bet eina kazkur tarpe tarp energijos ir credit'o, kitaip tariant Naftos kainu kilimas yra ok, bet reikia zemesniu yieldu. Siuo metu labiau reaguoja i naftos kainas ir elgiasi kaip energijos asetas, korekcijos prilaikomos krentanciu yieldu ju metu. Krentanti nafta/kylantys yieldai butu peilis
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 01:24 #876852 |
|
Visos energijos akcijos kurias bepaimtum-nafta, uranium, anglis atrodo super ilguose intervaluose. I pensiju fondus jas reikia del long term laikymui.
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 01:30 #876853 |
|
Visos energijos akcijos kurias bepaimtum-nafta, uranium, anglis atrodo super ilguose intervaluose. I pensiju fondus jas reikia del long term laikymui, ypac po dipo ant menesiniu intervalu
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 01:56 #876854 |
|
Reikia tik atsirinkti tokias kurios turi daugiau exposure i Nafta ir angli. Tokios kaip WDS, jos vistiek nuims tuos buvusius topus, bet joms gali prireikti 10 metu kad tai padaryti, kas duotu tik 20% average metine graza(plius 10% dividendai).
Priezastis yra didele LNG exposure ir po keliu metu i rinka bus ismesta didelis supply of LNG is nauju projektu Katare, Afrikoj, US, Kanadoj, Mexico ir aisku WDS turi dideli projekta Australijoje kuris prades pumpuot at full scale 2027. Tai numus LNG kainas ir profit margin bet kompanijos vistek isliks rekordiskai profitable, kas yra gerai akcijos kainai ir dividendams, bet blogai akcijos dinamikai ir letam augimui. Konkreciai WDS visi LNG kontraktai yra susieti ne su LNG, o su naftos kaina, tad cia pliusas, bet LNG ir naftos kainu gapui didejant tie kontraktai ko gero bus perziureti ateityje arba nepratesti o nauji jau neskaiciuos vertes nuo bareliu kainos. Visa tai gerai atsispindi energijos akciju grafikuose kuriu strukturos yra panasios EW atzvilgiu, bet skirtingos augimo potencialo atzvilgiu. |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 02:45 #876855 |
|
Maisto kainos (Agriculture) eina i finaline banga. Reikia tiketis maisto kainu suolio parduotuvese, kurios darys dideli spaudima ir taip jau suspaustiems vartotojams.
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 03:45 #876858 |
|
Kiek cia liko tiems JUnk Bondams iki korekcijos pabaigos, kuriu free fall perlaus stubura AAA rated kreditu rinkoms. Sakyciau dar vienos nedideles bangos up ant weekly intervalu kad uzbaigt korekcijas nuo 2020. Kai apsisuks ir prades judet apacion galima bus ieskot topu ant stoku indeksu, arba jei nuo cia prades formuot lower highs.
Bank Loans (senior loans) jau sakyciau po vandeniu ir yra pirma kregzde. Geriausiai laikosi EM bondai, bet paskutinis dipas ant DOW sugeneravo siek tiek technical damage. Dar vienas dipas apacion ir trendas junkuose pasikeistu. is up i down. |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 04:09 #876859 |
|
⭐ How an ETF can “crash” an illiquid bond market
Here’s the chain reaction that can happen: 1. Investors sell the ETF heavily ETFs trade like stocks — fast, continuous, deep liquidity. 2. ETF price falls below NAV This is called a discount. It signals that the ETF is pricing in stress that the underlying bonds haven’t yet reflected. 3. Authorized participants (APs) redeem ETF shares To arbitrage the discount, APs redeem ETF units for the underlying bonds. 4. APs receive illiquid bonds they don’t want They must sell them into a market with: few buyers wide bid–ask spreads poor transparency 5. Forced selling pushes bond prices down sharply This is where the “crash” can happen. 6. ETF NAV drops because the underlying bonds drop This reinforces the cycle. ⭐ Has this happened before? Yes — multiple times March 2020 (COVID crash) High‑yield and corporate bond ETFs traded at record discounts Underlying bonds froze ETFs became the only source of price discovery The Fed had to intervene with corporate bond purchases This was the clearest example of ETFs transmitting stress into the bond market. 2015 high‑yield market freeze Third Avenue Focused Credit Fund collapsed HY ETFs saw huge discounts Underlying bonds became untradeable 2013 “Taper Tantrum” EM bond ETFs saw massive outflows Underlying sovereign bonds crashed ⭐ So can ETFs cause a crash? They can accelerate or expose a crash, but they don’t create the underlying fragility. The real cause is: **Underlying bonds are illiquid. ETFs are liquid. The mismatch is the risk.** ETFs act like a pressure valve — they reveal stress early and transmit it quickly. ⭐ Which bond ETFs are most at risk? The ones with the biggest liquidity mismatch: 🥇 Bank loan ETFs (e.g., BKLN) Loans settle in T+7 to T+20. ETF trades in milliseconds. 🥈 High‑yield bond ETFs (HYG, JNK) Underlying bonds often trade once every few days. 🥉 Emerging market bond ETFs (EMB, EMLC) Capital controls + thin markets = fragile. 🏅 Municipal bond ETFs (MUB) Tens of thousands of tiny issuers, very illiquid. ⭐ Clean takeaway Yes — an illiquid bond market can crash or freeze if its ETFs face heavy selling. But the ETF is not the cause — it’s the messenger that reveals the underlying illiquidity. ✔ ETFs are liquid ✔ Bonds are not ✔ In a panic, the ETF price collapses first ✔ Forced redemptions push illiquid bonds into a thin market ✔ That can trigger or accelerate a crash This is one of the biggest structural risks in modern credit markets. |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 07:41 #876862 |
|
⭐ Could an illiquid bond market + ETF selling trigger a 2008‑style crisis?
Not in the same way as 2008 — but it can trigger a major credit crunch, liquidity freeze, and forced‑selling spiral that feels similar in markets. The mechanism is different, but the outcome (credit markets seizing up) can rhyme with 2008. Let’s break it down cleanly. ⭐ 1. 2008 was about solvency, not liquidity 2008 happened because: Banks held toxic mortgage assets Those assets were mis‑rated Counterparties didn’t trust each other The banking system itself was at risk That was a solvency crisis. Bond ETF stress is not a solvency crisis. It’s a liquidity mismatch crisis. Different disease, similar symptoms. ⭐ 2. Bond ETFs can trigger a liquidity crisis — not a banking collapse Here’s what can happen: ✔ Investors dump bond ETFs (HYG, JNK, EMB, BKLN) ✔ ETF prices fall faster than the underlying ✔ Authorized participants redeem ETF shares ✔ They receive illiquid bonds ✔ They try to sell those bonds ✔ The underlying market freezes ✔ Credit spreads blow out ✔ Companies can’t refinance ✔ Defaults rise This is a credit crunch, not a banking collapse. It’s painful, but it’s not 2008. ⭐ 3. The closest real‑world example: March 2020 In March 2020: Corporate bond ETFs traded at huge discounts Underlying bonds stopped trading The ETF became the only price discovery The Fed had to step in and buy corporate bonds This was the closest we’ve come to a systemic bond‑ETF‑driven crisis. It wasn’t 2008, but it was serious. ⭐ 4. Could it escalate into something bigger? Here’s the honest assessment: ✔ Yes — a massive selloff in illiquid bond ETFs can freeze credit markets. ✔ Yes — that can trigger recessionary pressure. ✔ Yes — it can cause defaults and funding stress. ✔ No — it won’t collapse the global banking system like 2008. Why not? Banks are better capitalized There’s no hidden leverage like CDO‑squared ETFs are transparent Regulators understand the mismatch Central banks now intervene faster The system is fragile — but not in the same way. ⭐ 5. The real risk is this: A credit market freeze caused by ETF‑driven forced selling can: spike yields crush corporate refinancing trigger waves of defaults cause a sharp recession hit equities hard blow up high‑yield markets This is a market crash, not a financial system collapse. Think 2015 + 2020, not 2008. ⭐ Clean takeaway Bond ETFs can absolutely trigger a major liquidity crisis. They cannot trigger a 2008‑style systemic banking collapse. But they can cause a violent credit crunch and market crash. |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 12:17 #876896 |
|
Ka reikia stebti, kokie butu pirmi pavojaus zenklai
⭐ Historical pattern: When does HYG fall enough to force underlying liquidation? Across every major stress event (2013, 2015, 2020), the same thresholds show up: ⭐ Threshold 1 — A 2–3% drop in a single day This is the point where: ETF price moves faster than NAV NAV becomes stale Discounts open Authorized Participants (APs) begin to consider redemptions This does NOT force liquidation yet, but it’s the first warning sign. Historical examples 2015 HY freeze: HYG fell ~2.5% intraday 2013 taper tantrum: HYG fell ~2% in a day This is the “stress begins” zone. ⭐ Threshold 2 — A 4–6% drop over 2–3 days This is where forced underlying selling begins. Why? Because: APs redeem ETF shares They receive illiquid HY bonds They must sell those bonds into a thin market Dealers widen spreads NAV collapses to catch up This is the liquidity‑mismatch trigger zone. Historical examples March 2020: HYG fell ~5% in 48 hours NAV lagged by ~3–4% APs redeemed aggressively Underlying HY bonds gapped down Fed intervened days later This is the point where the ETF forces price discovery into the underlying market. ⭐ Threshold 3 — A 7–10% drop in under a week This is the “deep discount” crisis zone where: ETF trades at a 4–6% discount to NAV NAV becomes meaningless Underlying bonds freeze Dealers refuse to make markets Forced selling cascades Credit spreads explode This is the closest the system gets to a credit‑market crash. Historical example March 2020 (COVID crash) HYG dropped ~10% in 7 days Discounts hit ~5–6% Underlying HY bonds became untradeable Fed launched corporate bond buying program This is the only time in history the Fed has ever bought corporate bonds — because the ETF‑driven forced selling was breaking the market. ⭐ So what’s the real answer? Here’s the clean, practical rule: ⭐ A 4–6% drop in HYG over 2–3 days is historically enough to force underlying liquidation. This is the point where: APs redeem Underlying HY bonds get dumped NAV collapses Discounts widen Liquidity evaporates And if the move continues: ⭐ A 7–10% drop in under a week = deep discount + systemic stress. This is the “March 2020 zone.” ⭐ Why these thresholds matter High‑yield bonds are: OTC illiquid slow to trade dependent on dealer balance sheets priced by models, not trades HYG is: extremely liquid trades every second used by institutions for hedging the real price discovery mechanism So when HYG moves fast, the underlying market is forced to follow — even if it doesn’t want to. ⭐ Clean takeaway ✔ 2–3% daily drop = early stress ✔ 4–6% drop in 2–3 days = forced underlying liquidation begins ✔ 7–10% drop in under a week = deep discount, market freeze, Fed‑level event This is exactly what history shows. |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 12:46 #876901 |
|
Rimtas, dabar konkrečiai statai 2026 m. už meškas?
Tas, kuris nugalėjo save, pats sau draugas.
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 14:05 #876916 |
|
id [2026-04-17 12:46]: Rimtas, dabar konkrečiai statai 2026 m. už meškas? Jei nafta brangi liks ir toliau, tai statyčiau ir aš už meškas. Principe laukiu, kol kas nepasiseks derybose su Iranu ir viskas važiuos žemyn. |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 14:05 #876917 |
|
id [2026-04-17 12:46]: Rimtas, dabar konkrečiai statai 2026 m. už meškas? Jei nafta brangi liks ir toliau, tai statyčiau ir aš už meškas. Principe laukiu, kol kas nepasiseks derybose su Iranu ir viskas važiuos žemyn. Jei dar šiandien penktadienį nekils, o leisis -reiškia meškų rinka. |
|
2026-04-17 17:03 #876933
1
|
|
|
Krosneles.eu [2026-04-17 14:05]: id [2026-04-17 12:46]: Rimtas, dabar konkrečiai statai 2026 m. už meškas? Jei nafta brangi liks ir toliau, tai statyčiau ir aš už meškas. Principe laukiu, kol kas nepasiseks derybose su Iranu ir viskas važiuos žemyn. Kaip sekasi laukimas? Nebijai užtrukt? More money makes more of who you are.
|
|
| 2026-04-17 17:05 #876934 | |
|
nu ką meškos, per kelias dienas papylė dolerių ir eurų. Išprotėję rinkos. Vėl pasiteisino pristatymas put pristatymas prie prastų nuotaikų. Kainos kyla, kainos krenta o pinigai lieka.
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 17:32 #876936 |
|
Vėjas12 [2026-04-17 17:03]: Kaip sekasi laukimas? Nebijai užtrukt? Nebijau, po mėnesio paklausk |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 17:43 #876937 |
|
Aš nežinau kaip Jus matote, prekiaujate, bet aš matau UP iki Rugpjūčio pabaigos bent jau.
Tas, kuris nugalėjo save, pats sau draugas.
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 17:49 #876939 |
|
id [2026-04-17 17:43]: Aš nežinau kaip Jus matote, prekiaujate, bet aš matau UP iki Rugpjūčio pabaigos bent jau. Visaip gali būti. Bet karas dar nesibaigė. Niekada nereikia šokti į nuvažiavusį traukinį. Korekcija būna visada. Šiaip nesu investuotojas, aš spekuliantas. Tai man tik svyravymai idomu |
|
|
|
2026-04-17 17:51 #876940 |
|
P.. visiems tas karas. Nelabai jau rimtai rinkos atsižvelgia į Ryžo cirkus
Tas, kuris nugalėjo save, pats sau draugas.
|
|
|
|
2026-04-17 17:57 #876942 |
|
id [2026-04-17 17:51]: P.. visiems tas karas. Nelabai jau rimtai rinkos atsižvelgia į Ryžo cirkus Dabar euforija, rytoj pirmadienį gal prablaivėjimas bus. Rinkos toks dalykas, kad kai kažkas perka, kažkas parduoda. Market makeriai negali dirbti į minusą visada. Todėl korekcijos būna visada. |
|



1