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2024-11-28 10:34 #811811
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labai sunku perlipti per save. Tokia jau žmogaus psichologija. Nors teoriškai lūzerius reikia visuomet išsiravėt iš portfelio kuo anksčiau ir leist pinigams veikti, kur augimas, o ne kritimas tolesnis šviečiasi. Geriau jau praradus pinigų juos įdarbint, nei nuolat matyti prastą ir prastėjantį vaizdą.
Galima laikyt kaip ir visokias Augas, Novaturus tikintis stebuklų, bet čia kankinimasis, o ne investavimas. BH situacija nėra tragiška, bet ir nieko gero. Bet koks netikėtas sukrėtimas jiems voš vėl smarkiausiai, net vien su kaimynais Eten ir Invalda RE lyginant. Buvau rašęs, kad USA pilna REIT'ų su didžiulėm nuolaidom nuo NAV ir mokančių dividendus aukštus. Tai požymis, kad rinka juos laiko šiukšlėmis, o kokybiški žaidėjai prekiaujasi net su premijomis nuo NAV. |
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2024-11-28 10:52 #811813 | |
Nesigraužiu, pamiršau se iai ir varau tolyn, dabar visus pinigus dedu į goindex fondą, beveik nuo pradžių jo įsikūrimo. Aš niekada neišsiminėju, nes dar nebuvo taip kad pristigčiau pragyvenimui, paskolų ir lizingų neturiu. Daug laiko keliauju. Gyvenimas per trumpas vien apie pinigus galvoti, jei jų netrūksta paprastam gyvenimui.
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2024-11-28 11:30 #811829 | |
manau teisingai darai. Dar ir tą patį BH dalim skerdžiant į indeksą būtų logiškas sumest.
Ilguoju laikotarpiu pasiteisintų toks sprendimas. Pasaulio (ar USA vien) ekonomikoje daugiau potencialio nei BH ofisiukuose užskolintuose. |
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2024-11-28 12:07 #811843 | |
Panašiai galvoju, gal po naujų, prisideniant investicine sąskaita, nes pliusinių pardavinėti nesinori iškart, o su investicine kaip suprantu minusą dengri galima bus ir vėlesniais periodais. O pliusinių pozicijų baltic irgi turiu daugiau nei pakankamai.
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2025-01-04 22:58 #816112 | |
kaika [2024-11-28 12:07]: Panašiai galvoju, gal po naujų, prisideniant investicine sąskaita, nes pliusinių pardavinėti nesinori iškart, o su investicine kaip suprantu minusą dengri galima bus ir vėlesniais periodais. O pliusinių pozicijų baltic irgi turiu daugiau nei pakankamai. Irgi esu užpirkęs Baltic'o normaliai taip po 1.3 Tik skiriamės, kad man dar ir pinigų dabar reikia. Bet kai pažiūriu į 80% nuostolį ranką nekyla parduoti. Ką gi, pamoka išmokta. Kiaušiniai turi gulėt atskirai, geriausiai ir vandenynais atskirti, ir nišom. |
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2025-01-15 15:42 #817708 |
Spekuliacinis raliukas. Kaip ir pas Auga group.
1. Godumą gydyk target`u, kvailumą - stop loss`u!
2. Konservai - tai toks blogas maisto pakaitalas. 3. Darbas durnių myli - WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER! 4. Pem` štukų vagnorkių! 5. Mudu su Izabele... 6. Laukinis kapitalizmas nustekeno žmogiškąjį kapitalą. 7. Prie Niksono |
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2025-03-04 19:07 #824810 | |
Rodo kad siandien 2.2kk akciju suprekiauta. gal jau sviesa tunelio gale matosi?
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2025-03-05 07:12 #824867 | |
Japoska [2025-03-04 19:07]: Rodo kad siandien 2.2kk akciju suprekiauta. gal jau sviesa tunelio gale matosi? ![]() Taip - ten atvažiuojantis traukinys ![]() |
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2025-05-08 14:31 #832655 | |
Gal kas domisi šiuo lavonėliu kaip jam sekasi? Dividentų šiemet matyt su žiburiu nerasi?
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2025-05-09 06:44 #832773 | |
Nelogiška mokėti dividendus, kai palūkanos už obligacijas atsieina 10+%
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2025-05-09 07:22 #832776 | |
Šikna visiška tas fondas . Per 5 metus -80 % .Užmetu kai kada aki ,- bet kol jas mano nuomone tegu susitvarko balansus . Vos vos tas fondas kvepuoja .
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2025-07-29 15:44 #841857 | |
Nasdaq Stockholm has approved Baltic Horizon Fund application for delisting of SDRs
Kas cia yra? |
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2025-07-29 17:59 #841887 | |
Bankrotas čia yra.
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2025-07-29 19:21 #841900 | |
Išeina iš Stokholmo biržos.
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2025-07-29 20:16 #841906 | |
unitedtraders [2025-07-29 15:44]: Nasdaq Stockholm has approved Baltic Horizon Fund application for delisting of SDRs Kas cia yra? Čia yra pizdiec |
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2025-07-29 20:17 #841907 |
Bet čia SDR. TEO irgi delistingavosi Londone. Gal čia nieko blogo?
Redaguota: ^la (2025-07-29 23:07 ) Common sense is not very common
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2025-07-29 23:05 #841930
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Reikėtų daugiau informacijos.
Whether a company's decision to delist its SDRs is "bad" for investors depends heavily on the reasons for the delisting and the investor's individual circumstances and goals. Here's a breakdown of the scenarios and their implications: 1. Involuntary Delisting (Generally Bad) This occurs when a company fails to meet the listing requirements of the stock exchange. These requirements often include: Minimum share price: The stock price falls below a certain threshold for an extended period. Minimum market capitalization: The total value of the company's outstanding shares is too low. Financial health: The company may be in financial distress, facing bankruptcy, or experiencing consistent losses. Regulatory non-compliance: Failure to file timely financial reports, adhere to corporate governance standards, or engaging in fraudulent activities. Low trading volume/liquidity: Insufficient investor interest makes it difficult to buy or sell shares. Consequences for investors in involuntary delisting: Negative signal: It often indicates severe underlying problems with the company's financial health or management. Reduced liquidity: Trading the SDRs becomes much harder. They might move to Over-the-Counter (OTC) markets, which are less regulated and have lower trading volumes, wider bid-ask spreads, and less transparency. Price decline: The delisting itself can trigger further price drops due to negative sentiment and forced selling by institutional investors who are mandated to hold only exchange-listed securities. Potential for total loss: If the company goes bankrupt, shareholders are typically last in line to receive any assets, often resulting in their investment becoming worthless. Difficulty selling: It can be much harder to find a buyer for delisted shares, even if the company isn't bankrupt. 2. Voluntary Delisting (Can Be Neutral to Positive, but with implications) This happens when a company chooses to delist its SDRs. Reasons for voluntary delisting include: Cost reduction: Maintaining a listing on an exchange is expensive due to regulatory compliance, reporting, and listing fees. If trading volume on that particular exchange is low (as seen with Baltic Horizon Fund's SDRs on Nasdaq Stockholm), the company might decide the costs outweigh the benefits. Going private: The company may be acquired by another entity or decide to buy back its shares and become a private company. Merger/Acquisition: If two listed companies merge, they might delist one of the original entities and continue trading as a new, combined entity on a different exchange. Consolidating listings: The company might want to consolidate its trading on a single, more liquid exchange (e.g., keeping its primary listing in its home country and delisting SDRs from another market). Consequences for investors in voluntary delisting: Conversion options: Investors are usually given options to either sell their SDRs before the delisting date or convert them into the underlying shares of the company (which might trade on another exchange). Buyout offers: If the company is going private or being acquired, shareholders may receive cash compensation or shares in the acquiring company. This can sometimes result in a profitable exit for investors. Reduced trading avenues: While the underlying shares still exist, the specific SDRs you held will no longer be traded on the previous exchange. This means you might need to change your brokerage or open an account in a different market to trade the underlying shares. Potential for reduced liquidity (if not converting): If you don't convert your SDRs or if the underlying shares trade on a less liquid market, it could still affect your ability to sell easily. No immediate loss of ownership: Unlike involuntary delisting due to bankruptcy, you don't automatically lose your investment. You still own a stake in the company, just in a different form or on a different trading venue. What investors should do: If a company you hold SDRs in announces a delisting, it's crucial to: Understand the reason: Determine if it's a voluntary or involuntary delisting. This is the most critical factor. Review the company's announcement: Companies typically provide detailed information about the delisting process, timelines, and options for SDR holders (e.g., selling, converting to underlying shares). Contact your broker: Your brokerage firm will be able to guide you through the process of selling your SDRs or converting them into underlying shares. They can also explain any associated fees or procedures. Assess the underlying company: Even if it's a voluntary delisting, evaluate the company's fundamentals and future prospects to decide whether you want to remain an investor in its underlying shares. In summary, while an involuntary delisting is almost always a "bad" sign indicating deep financial trouble, a voluntary delisting of SDRs can be a strategic move by the company that, while requiring action from the investor, doesn't necessarily imply a negative outlook for the underlying business. Greičiausiai priežastis bus maža apyvarta. Dėl tos pačios priežasties ir TEO Londone delistingavosi. Tiesiog nebeapsimoka listinguotis, kai nebelieka apyvartos. Common sense is not very common
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Vakar 10:15 #841977 | |
Gali būti ne tik apyvarta, bet ir kapitalizacija, nes per kelis metus praradus 75% vertės, kapitalizacija gali neatitikti minimumo reikalavimų.
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Vakar 11:04 #841990 |
Ar ne 2025 metais planavo sugrįžti į dividendų mokėtojų gretas? Gal kas tiksliau seka ir gali patikslinti. Įdomu, kaip sekasi, kada tie pirmieji dividendai bus?
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Vakar 13:34 #842021 | |
šiai dienai į minusą varo po 50k kas mėn, tai ki div dar toli. Nuo rugsėjo LV kokia tai mokykla startuoja su nuoma, tai kažkiek sumažės mėnesinis minusas
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