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2026-07-04 10:46 #885727 |
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Taip yra dabar, o ne anksčiau.
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2026-07-04 10:47 #885728 |
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Nu gal, nesiginčysiu. Čia kiniečių savininkų problemos ką ir kaip daryti, kur dizainą projektuoti.
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2026-07-04 11:10 #885730 |
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Taip, kad Volvo liktų Volvo, jį turi projektuoti švedai.
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2026-07-14 11:33 #887035 |
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panasu kad korekcija baiges and naftos stocku
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2026-07-16 11:25 #887414 |
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stai kaip atrodys situacija 2030 naftos fronte.
⚡ 1. The structural setup for 2030 By 2030, global oil supply faces three simultaneous pressures: High‑risk companies lose 20–60% of production (BP, Shell, U.S. shale independents, Canadian oil sands) Medium‑risk companies stay flat (Woodside, Chevron, Exxon, Equinor) Low‑risk companies grow modestly (Aramco, ADNOC, Petrobras, QatarEnergy) But the net effect is still negative supply growth. Global supply shortfall by 2030: 5–8 million barrels/day This is equivalent to: losing all U.S. shale growth, or losing Saudi Arabia’s spare capacity, or losing the entire North Sea This is why the price impact is structural. 📉 2. Demand in 2030 Even with EV growth, global demand remains strong: aviation petrochemicals shipping heavy transport developing economies industrial uses IEA, OPEC, and Rystad all project 103–106 mb/d demand in 2030. 📊 3. The 2030 oil price model (structural decline scenario) Scenario A — Mild decline (–5 mb/d supply gap) OPEC+ fills part of the gap U.S. shale slows but doesn’t collapse Demand grows modestly Price range: $95–120 per barrel Scenario B — Moderate decline (–6–7 mb/d gap) OPEC+ cannot fully compensate U.S. shale plateaus Non‑OPEC majors shrink Price range: $ 120–150 per barrel Scenario C — Severe decline (–8+ mb/d gap) BP/Shell upstream shrink faster U.S. shale declines sharply Canadian oil sands stagnate Megaproject delays compound Price range: $150–180 per barrel Scenario D — Shock scenario (geopolitical + structural) If structural decline overlaps with: Middle East disruption Russia supply loss Major refinery outages Rapid demand growth Price range: $180–220 per barrel This is not the base case, but it is possible. 🧠 4. Why structural decline pushes prices higher Oil prices rise when: supply falls demand stays stable spare capacity shrinks inventories tighten decline rates accelerate megaprojects are delayed All of these are happening simultaneously. This is why analysts call 2028–2035 the “structural bull market window.” 🛢️ 5. How companies behave under each scenario 🔴 High‑risk companies (BP, Shell, U.S. shale independents) Production falls Cash flow stays high (due to high prices) Share prices stagnate or drift sideways Dividends remain strong They become yield stocks, not growth stocks 🟠 Medium‑risk companies (Woodside, Chevron, Exxon) Production stable Cash flow rises Share prices outperform high‑risk peers LNG exposure boosts resilience They retain growth premium 🟢 Low‑risk companies (Aramco, ADNOC, Petrobras, QatarEnergy) Production grows Market share expands They become global supply anchors Strong long‑term valuations 🧩 6. Final takeaway ✔ Structural underinvestment → structural supply decline ✔ Structural supply decline → structurally higher oil prices ✔ 2030 price range: $95–180, depending on severity ✔ High‑risk companies shrink but don’t necessarily crash ✔ Medium‑risk companies outperform ✔ Low‑risk companies dominate global supply This is the most likely macro environment for 2030. |
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2026-07-16 11:35 #887419 |
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Niekas nezino realios situacijos su nafta, nes niekas tiksliai nezino kaip nafta susidaro.
Tai gali but tupai atsinaujinantis resursas. Vyraujanti hipoteze kad nafta kazkada susidare nuo dinozauru laiku ir baigsis, yra hipoteze. Niekas negali taip paprastai istyrinet visu zemes viduriu ir juo labiau stebet visus apykaitos procesus kurie ten vyksta. Naftos baubas stumiamas vardan zaliosios energetikos promotiono. Nothing personal, just business. |
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2026-07-17 09:44 #887647 |
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Cia neina kalba apie naftos trukuma zemeje. Cia eina kalba apie energetikos kompaniju nesugebejima po 3-4 metu aprupint nafta pasaulines rinkos nes ju telkiniai seni, isseke, iranga sena, infrastruktura sena, nauju greziniu nedaro, neinvestuoja, save kanibalizuoja per didvidendus, kapitalas plaukia ne i ateities gavybos uztikrinima o i dabarties investoriu malones patenkinima per divus ir buy backus. Investicijos nedaromos net palaikyt dabartine gavyba, jau nekalbant apie ateities.
Cia tikriausiai vienas is geriausiu komodu sektoriu investuot ateinantiems 5 metams, nes klausimo ar nafta kils nera, yra tik klausimas kaip greitai ta pamatysim. Zalioji energetika tokiam fone aisku irgi zaliuos, nes kai nafta brangi ir js yra trukumas, tai dujos, anglis, solar, wind ir pan subujos kaip rezultatas. Bet naftos negali pakeist su solar, nes is solar nei trasu gausi nei kelius nutiesi |
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| 2026-07-17 09:48 #887650 | |
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rimtas [2026-07-17 07:44]: ... Cia tikriausiai vienas is geriausiu komodu sektoriu investuot ateinantiems 5 metams, nes klausimo ar nafta kils nera, yra tik klausimas kaip greitai ta pamatysim. .... pamatysim gerokai vėliau nei tie penki metai. |
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2026-07-17 10:02 #887653 |
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IEA ir kai kurie analitikai prognozuoja, kad pasaulinė naftos paklausa gali pasiekti piką iki 2030 m., ypač dėl elektromobilių plėtros. Tuo tarpu OPEC laikosi labiau optimistinės pozicijos ir teigia, kad aiškių paklausos piko ženklų nėra, todėl tikisi tęstinio augimo
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2026-07-17 12:26 #887682 |
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bugaga [2026-07-17 09:48]: pamatysim gerokai vėliau nei tie penki metai. Kaina turi pradet kilt jau siais metais. Ji jau buvo pradejus kilt ir rado dugnus kaip tik del strukturiniu problemu, o ne del geopolitikos, , veliau Iranas baimes ivare ,marketas issigandes repricino nafta ant full shortage scenarijaus. Dabar gryzom i tuos lygius nuo kuriu strukturinis kainos augimas prates kelione up, nepaisant geopolitikos. Timingas gerai paaiskintas cia: ⭐ 1. The underinvestment problem: what actually happened Global upstream oil CAPEX peaked in 2014. Since then: investment fell ~50% shale growth slowed conventional discoveries collapsed offshore megaprojects were delayed ESG pressure reduced long‑cycle investment national oil companies under‑invested demand kept rising This created a structural supply gap that takes 5–10 years to show up. We are now at the point where the gap becomes visible. ⭐ 2. The three phases of structural oil tightness Phase 1 — Invisible tightness (2015–2020) Supply growth slows, but inventories and shale hide the problem. shale boom masks decline offshore projects still finishing demand growth modest prices oscillate no one notices the structural deficit This was the “calm before the storm.” Phase 2 — Emerging tightness (2021–2025) This is where we are now. Signs: inventories trending lower OPEC spare capacity shrinking shale productivity flattening offshore projects limited demand still rising price spikes during shocks (Ukraine, Middle East) refiners running at high utilisation This is the period where oil becomes jumpy, reacting violently to any disruption. We are living this right now. Phase 3 — Visible structural shortage (2026–2030) This is when the underinvestment becomes impossible to hide. What happens: OPEC spare capacity approaches zero shale plateaus or declines non‑OPEC supply stagnates demand still grows (India, SE Asia) inventories fall to critical levels price spikes become persistent, not temporary governments panic about fuel security inflation re‑accelerates central banks become trapped This is the phase where oil doesn’t just spike — it reprices. Not a spike to $150. A structural shift to $150–$200 as the new normal. This is the analogue to 1973–74, but driven by supply, not embargo. ⭐ So when does the real‑world pain begin? Here’s the timing in plain language: 2024–2025: Volatility, price spikes, refinery bottlenecks, geopolitical sensitivity. 2026–2027: Supply gap becomes visible. Inventories fall. OPEC spare capacity nearly gone. Shale stops growing. Prices grind higher. 2028–2030: Full structural shortage. Oil reprices. Governments panic. Inflation re‑accelerates. Central banks become constrained. Gold and commodities enter secular bull markets. This is the period where the underinvestment problem becomes real life, not theory. ⭐ Why this timing is so predictable Oil supply is slow: offshore megaprojects take 7–10 years conventional fields decline 4–6% per year shale declines 20–40% per year new discoveries are at record lows CAPEX has not recovered demand is still rising This creates a mathematically unavoidable supply gap. You can delay it with shale. You can mask it with SPR releases. You can hide it with OPEC cuts. But you cannot escape it. ⭐ Final synthesis The structural oil shortage caused by underinvestment begins to show up now, becomes undeniable by 2026–2027, and becomes a full‑blown macro driver by 2028–2030. This timing aligns with: sticky inflation negative real yields fiscal dominance gold’s 1972‑style consolidation commodity tightness geopolitical fragmentation Which is why the macro environment today looks so much like 1972–1973. |
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2026-07-17 12:39 #887683 |
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Nafta turi ko gero geriausia elioto vaizda is visu komodu. Downtrendai nukapoti, pratestuoti, nieko kito nelieka kaip tik up ateinancius 5 metus
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2026-07-17 13:11 #887690 |
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Jei ne geopolitines baimes, tai naftos kelias butu buves toks. Taip kad tie visi karai ir Trumpas marketui tik triuksmas, ir nieko daugiau-uzspaikina, gryzta atgal ir vel eina savo keliu
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2026-07-17 13:17 #887691 |
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Short term 5 bangu nuo dugno ignoruot negalima-tai trendo pokycio zenklas, ir po korekcijos, kokia ji bebutu ir kiek betruktu, kaina turi eiti up.
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2026-07-17 16:15 #887715 |
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"Bet naftos negali pakeist su solar, nes is solar nei trasu gausi nei kelius nutiesi"
Tai nafta ir kitos energijos rusys yra realiai solar derivatyvas, plius derivatyvas uzkonservuotos silumines energijos zemes viduriuose. Nes visi tie naftos susidarymo procesai vyksta kaitinant saulutei biosfera, be kurios niekas nebutu imanoma. O tiesiogiai ivaldyt saules energija kaip rodo praktika, labai problematiska. Nes uzstatyt panelem didelius plotus ir juos priziuret, tai yra ka veikt. Todel visa ta solar ateityje isvis gali nueit naxui manau, nes aptarnavimo kastai ten dideli, o nauda siaip sau. |
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2026-07-18 10:44 #887774 |
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Solar turi utilizacija tik kosmose, zemeje ji greiciausiai nepritaps. Pabandys zmones 100+ metu, gal pasieks 30% efektyvuma, bet greiciausiai bus nukonkuruota kitu energijos rusiu, iskaitant nuclear. O dideli zemes plotai bus reikalingi miestams, o ne solar fermoms.
Bet tai nereiskia kad artimiausiu metu(10+ metu) solar nesubujos. Kaip nekaip tai yra greiciausiai gaunama energija-gali per 24 valandas pastatyti personalia elektrine ko negali su kitom energijos rusim. Brangstant komodam solar bus viena is alternatyvu palaikyt zemas energijos kainas |
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2026-07-18 12:03 #887780 |
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C# [2026-07-17 16:15]: Todel visa ta solar ateityje isvis gali nueit naxui manau, nes aptarnavimo kastai ten dideli, o nauda siaip sau. Aptarnavimo kaštai, tai kas ? Dulkes nuvalyt? |
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2026-07-18 12:06 #887781 |
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Nafta pagal Kennedy
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2026-07-18 12:15 #887782 |
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solar gal gale metu bus BUY
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2026-07-18 12:25 #887783 |
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Rbob Gasoline beveik prie topo. Visi distilatai praktiskai arti ATH arba jau yra ATH(Heating Oil pvz). Nepaisant zemos naftos kainos, gatava produkcija jau pricinta naujuose lygiuose.
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| 2026-07-18 14:32 #887788 | |
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rimtas [2026-07-18 10:25]: ..... Nepaisant zemos naftos kainos, ... naftos kaina aukšta....... |
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