InvestorM [2010-01-08 12:11]:
Darriusk> Tuomet gal gali nurodyti, kur rasti sklypą 8-12 arų su visom komunikacijom už maždaug 12000lt/a? Nes man susidaro įspūdis, kad dabar žemės pardavėjai tokių visai neparduoda ir laiko laukdami "geresnių laikų". Žemė valgyt neprašo, už šildymą nemoki ir nesidėvi. Jaučiu, kad žemės hipotetinė vertė krito panašiais dydžiais (hipotetinė, nes tokia būtų, jei kas pardavinėtų), tačiau realiai tiesiog dingo pasiūla.

virgism [2010-01-08 12:02]:


Kaip gali daryti išvadas, kai pradiniai duomenys - turguje nugirsti pokalbiai ?
http://energy.eu/#prices

indenas [2010-01-08 10:36]:
Be to, neįvertini mano minėtų pridėtinių išlaidų po paskutinio būsto pardavimo. Gerai, jeigu pardavusi butą su visu jame buvusiu turtu gali laikinai keltis į kokias pigiausias landynes arba pas gimines. O jeigu reikia du ar daugiau metų nuomotis ne blogesnį būstą (primenu, kad ir nuomos kainos tada buvo kosminės). O jeigu bute turi vertingo turto (antikvariniai baldai, paveikslai ir pan.), kurio perkraustymas ir saugojimas kainuoja didelius pinigus? Be to, kiek suprantu, kažkaip apėjote "vaikų problemą" arba jos neturėjote.

erika1 [2010-01-08 14:40]:

o gal vertinama na pagal absoliucias kainas, bet pagal kainu ir atlyginimu santyki..Ir manau jog santykinis palyginimas yra daug tikslesnis ir teisingesnis, santykinis palyginimas labai puikiai atskleidzia ir valdzios darbo efektyvuma
cia panasiai kaip su aukso kaina ir pasauline finansu sistema

The relationship between the sales prices of houses and the rents of those houses is not valid for the U.S.A. I have been an appraiser since the 1970's. During that period there has been no correlation between rents and sales prices for single family houses. In some places there is a relationship between rents and sales prices of condos and multi-family buildings, but that hasn't happened for single families. I suspect that the advantage in tax treatment for mortgage interest has damaged tat relationship. But there is and has been for a very long time a relationship between median house prices in an area and the median family income in that area. I believe that the average has been 2.8 times the median income. When the median house price gets over 3, then a correction is due. In corrections the ration has fallen to under 2.5. In 2009 the median family income was about $60,000, while the median house price was about $210,000; therefore house prices are about 14% overvalued.

Modern housing prices are determined essentially by one factor only: the availability of credit. With ever larger numbers of people unable to obtain credit on reasonable terms and banks unwillingness to provide credit backed by falling asset values the price of housing is likely to continue to fall. With deflation on the horizon coupled with the unsustainably low interest rates forced on the market by misguided centeral bankers real interest rates are likely to skyrocket well into the double digits. As the credit bubble that drove prices up continues to unwind, the economy as a whole will continue to contract forcing people to re-evaluate their perceptions related to housing in general. Will average couples and families continue to live in giant McMansions? No. Will more people share accomodations, whether due to financial necessity or simple prudence. Most likely. The combination of these and other factors will continue to drive down both rents and house prices for the forseeable future. The reason for the present uptick in the markets? Pure speculation directed by previously held assumptions about the nature and future of property prices. Once the falicy of this conventional wisdom is revealed to Joe. Q. House-owner/renter capitulation will occure. The bottom will be recognizable by the transition to most property deals being done in cash (not just the few deals being done now by unfortunate and foolish speculators).

As for the larger economic picture (of which the housing market is but a small component), what we are seeing is merely the end of the begining. The system in itself is unsustainable as it relies on ever increasing consumption of non-renewable resources of all classes. Transitioning to a negative growth situation will require a complete re-evaluation the underpinings of society. The broader economic malaise is but a symptom of hitting this unmoveable wall on several fronts simultaniously (as would be expected of an event of such magnitude). The interdependance of the complex social system we call the global economy has been exploited to drive a positive feedback loop leading to an untenable situation. Now that same feedback loop will reverse and consume the system that it previously supported. This is the nature of any Ponzi sceme. These, and other large-scale factors, are virtually ignored by wonks, hacks, and industrial titans alike. Macro-economics is obviouly a serious misnomer.

Sad to say but we have a very long and rocky road ahead folks. Reduce or eliminate debt, conserve all possible principal, prepare for the worst, and hope for the best. The upside is that we are about to be taught wonderful lessons in how to achieve a sustainable society. If we chose to heed those lessons we will emerge bloodied but more likely to be in harmony with the each other and the universe. Peace and good luck to all.

Jei vienam seimos nariui menesines pajamos i rankas butu ~1,300 LT (metine seimos mediana gaunasi kazkur 32,000 LT), kiek procentu pas mus pervertintas turtas?

Darriusk [2010-01-08 17:05]:
Visa laimė, kad Lietuvoje niekada NT kaina nepriklausė nuo šeimos nario algos, kitaip nuo 1993 m nebūtų parduotas nei vienas butas

SKAY [2010-01-08 11:58]:
Kad ir toks ilgalaikes perspektyvos tyrimas - iki 2050 metu Lietuvoje liks 2 mln. gyventoju.
(...)
Kodel nepasiziurejus NT kokioj Ipanijoje, kuris galetu generuoti pasyvias pajamas.
(...)
Taciau ispanija - patikrintas reikalas. Tai ne koks Dubajus ar Turkija su musulmonais.

solara2 [2010-01-08 10:00]:

sveiki, skaitau forumą senokai, o dabar kai užkabinot temą kur turiu šiek tiek patirties - nutariau prisijungti, gal kam bus įdomi reali patirtis.
Esu iš tų 'balvonų' pike pardavusių savo vienintelį būstą, maža to - paskatinau taip pat pasielgti dar keletą artimų žmonių (tėvus/brolius/draugus).

Robinas Dzandzeris [2010-01-09 10:22]:
Rizikuoti savo ir seimos gerove? Susikurti sau nepatogumus? Isivaizduoju kiek streso patyrete. Vardan ko?