|2011-07-16 01:15 #205626|
LT dar viena ypatybė, kad kai tai įvyks, atsiras daug gudresnių ir naglesnių bei be moralės piliečių ( ypač politikierių ), kurie pasistengs apdirbti tuos kurie turi kažką. Todėl iš anksto reikia ieškoti kur gyventi ( kur veiks normaliai teisinė, policinė sistemos, verslo laisvė...), turėti komandą tam tikrų žmonių bei ryšių. Šiandien tryniausi viename Vilniaus rajonų, kur daug privačių namų. Kaip įdomu, policijos pilna, 10 kart daugiau negu normaliuose rajonuose. O esmė paprasta - namuose slepiamos cigaretės, dyzelis, naminukė... O su žaliaisiais ufonautais taip lengvai niekas nesidalina... Viskas paprasta...
Dabar galėčiau užmėtyti straipsniais apie Ag ir AU, bet kam išlįsti tik tada kai sekasi? Reikia parodyti ir kitą pusę. Įdomiai Benas buvo sugalvojęs - pats spausdina, o 4 proc strateginio USA naftos rezervo, sukurto po rugsėjo 11 meta į rinką. Tipo žiūrėkit, kainos nekyla... Tai irgi QE 3 dalis...
Aha, Turkas ir draugelis iš GATA:
Redaguota: Parshiukas (2011-07-16 02:41 )
|2011-07-16 10:57 #205633|
jo,tiek kiek domiuosi laisva spauda usa,Obama,Bernanke yra statytiniai,daro tai kas jiems liepta ir kalba kas pasakyta,cia tei zaidimai del skolos lubu pakelimo,kvieciasi ant kilimelio demokratus su respublikonais,cirkas.Seniai viskas nutarta,viskam savas laikas paskelbti.Idomiausia jei nutarta nepakelti lubu,pasauli papuosh fejerverkai.
|2011-07-16 22:50 #205701|
Pakels tas lubas... Gerai dabar papolitikuoti, juk artėja pamžu rinkimai, po to paklykauti, pasidalinti trupinius... Net jei laivas primena kirvį... Svarbiausia biznis...
Bet čia jų žaidimai. Mes turim savo. Kaip monopolyje turi eiti tik vieną kartą, sulaukęs progos.
Kilogramas bulvių visąlaik buvo ir bus vertesnis už kilogramą aukso.
Auksas labai sveika ir daug ligų gydo. Norint gydytis reikia ne mažiau 4kg lydinių susidėt po pagalve ar matracu. Ryte atsikėlęs jautiesi daug sveikesnis ir geros nuotaikos.
Kai skesite, prigriebkite ir keliolika kilogramu aukso - pades...
"Yra 2 dalykai, kurie per amzius turi ir tures savo verte, tai auksas ir zeme."
Tai atsiversk aruoda ir pirk sklypus bei zheme, pamatysi.
Redaguota: Parshiukas (2011-07-17 03:29 )
|2011-07-17 21:33 #205783|
Aha, rugpjūčio pradžioje vyks goldrush 2011. Praeitą kartą auksas ir sidabras po konferencijos padvigubėjo kainoje... Kaip viskas po velnių sutampa... Jaučiu bus geri metai...
|2011-07-18 01:01 #205822|
Fiato pavyzdžiai, kaip muziejuje:
Ir Graikijos šou tęsiasi:
Aha, tai graikams paskolos su vos ne 0 procentų bus sukombinuotos? O kaip Ispanija, Portugalija, Italija, Airija?
|2011-07-19 10:54 #206087|
Gal ir neteks jau pamatyti pigesnio silverio...
Ir Max Keiser naujausia laida:
|2011-07-19 10:57 #206089|
shvieciasi kad taip ir bus...
|2011-07-19 13:24 #206137|
Markus kokios fundamentalios/technines priezastys vercia tave taip teigti?
|2011-07-19 14:31 #206158|
kas tau is tu mano fundamentaliu ir dar techniniu.......ar tu jas sau susidarineji,juk yra protingesniu uz mane,tai jie ir sudarineja,as be problemu skaitau anglu ir rusu,man to pakanka,kiek tau parshiukas duoda info,tik skaityk i sveikata.
|2011-07-19 17:19 #206207|
Ты азартен , Парамоша!
|2011-07-19 22:35 #206316|
Nurodytas filmas visiškai iškreipia realybę. Nutaikyta plačiajai publikai.
|2011-07-21 00:33 #206550|
Na šiandien man smegenis plovė didysis keinsistas Povilas Gylys, Nausėda ir Kuodis. Išvados atsargios, laukia euro sprendimo klausimo ir USA skolos padidinimo. Gylys su Kuodžiu pasipiktinę, kad biudžetininkai gavę algų padidinimus per krizę, juos ne leido vartojimui, o kas 4 litą taupė... Ir kišo į indėlius... Parazitai... O juk galėjo gelbėti statybininkus, labiausiai nukentėjusius nuo krizės ir renovuoti... Per uabus kai kieno... Dar Gylys piktinosi, kaip čia Graikijai tokios palūkanos uždėtos didelės, juk vargšeliai neištrauks... Ko Nausėda negelbėji Graikijos su indėlininkų geru? O dabar vėl indėlių bumas... Oij valdžiai rankos niežti... Kaip čia liaudis taip ir dirbti pamirš... Negerai...
Ir vidaus vartojimas neseka eksporto... Pasiūlos infliacija bet ką numarins... Taigi prie ko čia sidabras? Ogi prie nieko, senas atavizmas nupiepusiams seniams...
Redaguota: Parshiukas (2011-07-21 02:26 )
|2011-07-21 08:02 #206561|
nenusibodo varyt tas nuoruodas . .....propoganda veikia smegenis gerai cia kai .......
|2011-07-21 10:38 #206598|
the watcher...kas tau neduoda ramybes?ar tave tai veikia,gi neskaityk,arba nebuk cia,nervus sutaupysi senatvei,man idomu,o smegenu uztenka atsirinkti kas yra kas.Kazkas netingi info parinkti,o vis tiek neitiksi,tokie mes jau lietuviai.
|2011-07-21 22:10 #206772|
Na pabandysim išrinkinėt įdomiausias mintis:
David Morgan: And again, I will give Ted Butler some credit here that he very much deserves, because Ted was really instrumental in waking a lot of people up to the Commitment of Traders reports. And what you could do with those in the early days is you could almost trade silver to the penny. Now those days are long, long, long, gone. And not that I advocate trading for anybody, in fact, just the opposite. I think most people should never being in the futures market. I happen to be there myself on a very small basis. In other words, I do what I teach which is, if you have the wherewithal, the funds, and the ability, then you can use a very small, small portion of your overall funds to either use it to speculate hedge or that type of thing. But regardless, that is how the market works. I think I have beat it to death, Chris, but you give me some feedback.
Chris Martenson: Well, this very much fits with my own views. I actually was a futures trader for a while for myself, for my own private fund. I mostly focused on SPX and silver and gold. So I am very aware of the shenanigans that you talk about because I watched them happen again and again. And so what I focused on here, though, is: you said if the main trend is up though, these bounces that we are talking about where a trading fund and a commercial bank are involved in some blood sport with each other. As far as I am concerned—they do not even care about fundamentals, fundamentals like what is the industrial use of silver? How much is there? All they care about is where the books are stacked, right? How many people are short? How many people are long? It is a game. So the price of silver is volatile not because of fundamentals, for the most part, but because of these games that are going on, particularly in the paper markets.
David Morgan: Absolutely agree 100%. I mean, those guys on the floor do not have a clue if we would ever run out of silver or what is used for—any of that stuff. They do exactly as you stated. So they could care less. But, of course, the public sees this stuff and they get worried that the commercials know something no one else knows about, the true fundamental picture of silver and that kind of thing. The commercials may have some insight into that, but traders basically do not care. And most of the banks really do not either. They are there for one purpose and that is to make money.
Chris Martenson: Yeah. All right, let us switch things up a bit though. You mentioned that you do not recommend anybody should be trading silver, so I think you are an investor in silver. Why is it that you think silver is a good investment, and could somebody Rip Van Winkle silver in your mind? I mean, they buy some, go to sleep, 10 or 20 years later wake up and feel good about what they have done?
David Morgan: Yeah. Personally, I do both, trading and investing. I have three levels of service. The main service is for the buy-and-hold investor, and I think that is the safest for those people. Some people like to trade and that is fine, and I do a little bit of that myself. As far as a Rip Van Winkle question, it is an excellent question. I was obviously very bullish on silver starting, actually, a couple times in my life. This is the second bull market for me, but I really got on the band wagon in, actually, the late 90s and then after moving up here and starting a Web site, I had another one earlier. But regardless, I was very bullish on silver from 2000 to 2010 on basically the monetary aspect. Yeah, I looked at the industrial and it was growing and it was important, but after ten years, I decided to take another look at the silver market from the aspect of assuming I didn’t know anything about the silver markets. So I took out a blank sheet of paper and I asked a question: “This is January 2010, would I want to buy silver for the next ten years or not?” When I got done with that study, I published it in the March issue of The Morgan Report. It is still available for all my members, paid members can get it, but I have lectured on this for free. So if you really want this information, if you just Google my name, there are several lectures out there that I have gone through pretty much the entire report.
Regardless, Chris, what I found was astonishing. What I found was that within three to four years, we are going to be back in a deficit situation and most of the silver bucks know what that means and some of the new listeners might not. But silver basically was in a deficit from 1990 to 2006. For 16 straight years the amount of mining available and recycling available did not meet total demand. But supply and demand have to meet every year. And so the way it meets is by the above-ground stockpile, I will call it, of silver. It was 2 billion ounces in 1990. It dwindled down to roughly 500 million by 2006, so round numbers, we were taking a 100 million ounces of fine silver out of the stockpile every year to meet the demand for 16 straight years. And then around that same time frame, the mining supply had increased and increased from the commodities boom and we had a crossover, meaning that the mining supply plus recycling does meet total demand currently. That is just on the industrial side, but if you throw in the monetary aspect as well, you have monetary demand that is going to be there. And you are going to have a supply chain that cannot meet just the industrial demand. So I am more bullish now, Chris, on silver going out ten years than I was, as I said, back in the year 2000.
I was surprised by this—now I want to be very careful here because one, whenever you project something ten years, and I do not do a linear projection by the way, you are probably going to make some errors. So I was very concerned if I took into account that there are errors to be made, there are things that I am going to overlook, so I only looked at the three main areas where the most rapid growth in silver exists and that is in food, water, and solar. So the three things people need the most, they need food, they need to eat, and they need energy. There is a huge push, as everyone knows, for solar energy around the planet. Governments around the globe are looking to push the solar industry. I am an engineer. Solar is really not that efficient a methodology to make electricity but it does. But it is being pushed. And when you have it being pushed, it is going to get a lot of money and a lot of silver is going to be used in the process. Water purification, very important obviously, silver is used there more and more. And lastly, on the food processing. Packaging is part of it. With the nanotechnology, you can impregnate these plastic sheets with silver now, and you can do a wrapping of a meat or any other product. You could do it with potato chips, as an example (they don’t). Any packaging you can think of, silver impregnated will keep the product from spoiling a lot longer, so it is used mostly in like the meat packing industry. But that is a huge growth industry as well.
So those three are the only ones that I account for in the study. I did not look at the RFID tags, I did not look at consumer electronics, I did not look at everybody in China buying a flat screen television. I just discounted all that stuff. They still are going to have a problem three or four years out. And the reason I keep saying three or four is because there is going to be a very significant increase in the amount of silver that comes out of the ground from some significant mines over the next three years or so. And I have to be truthful, I mean that is fact and let us stick to the facts. So there may be a lot of the mainstream press or the mainstream financial press telling everybody how much new silver is coming to the market. And they will probably be accurate on their numbers.
What they are not telling you is that that is going to last for just a few more years. And if everything goes as I expect it to, meaning in a very strong recessionary environment, there is still going to be huge industrial demand for silver. And there is algo going to be monetary or investment demand. I think silver is one of the most easy investments you could actually sleep on. Now, it moves quite rapidly up and down as we all know, but if you are taking a Rip Van Winkle approach that I’m putting X amount of dollars or Aussie dollars or Candos into silver, ten years out and I am giving it my grandkids or for myself or whatever the case may be. And that long term approach, I cannot think of a better investment.
Chris Martenson: Yeah. All right, so I just noted I think India’s year-over-year demand growth for silver was up a couple hundred percent this past year, and we are seeing all sorts of demand increasing from industrial sources. One of the things I track very closely is the idea that, yes there are some fairly significant new mines coming on board, but a lot of silver also comes as a byproduct of other things: zinc, copper mining, other things. And as I look into that space, I see peak oil as being very real. I see energy as being a critical component of mining and mining cost, and I see the possibility that some marginal mines may not really be economic at these or higher fuel prices. So there are all sorts of factors sort of weighing in on this. Yes, there are more people. Yes, there is more industrial demand. Yes, we are going to be wanting more silver for a variety of purposes. Yes, there are new mines coming on to help meet that. And on the other side of that, we have got this idea that known mines are depleting. Eventually all mines run out; that is the nature of mining. And they run out faster at higher fuel cost because the marginal production just does not cut it. So on a Rip Van Winkle standpoint, when I look at these things, 10 or 20 years I think we are facing a very different landscape, and so it defaults all the way back to I have got a very simple investment philosophy here—a bird in the hand is worth two in a the bush. I prefer physical silver in this regard. What are your thoughts there?
David Morgan: I have always talked from the beginning that as long as this bull market continues, number one: you have to buy physical to start your metals portfolio. Basically, if I could, I would not let anyone subscribe to my service that did not initiate a position of physical silver and or gold before they ever talk to me, so to speak. I cannot control that, of course. But, no, the only monetary asset outside of what I call the matrix, I mean everything else…you can have the best mining company in the world, but you still have to buy it through a broker and you still have to sell it through a clearing house. Gold and silver, you do not have to clear anywhere. I mean, I come from an aircraft background. I do not talk about this very often, but the survival kit in fighter jets is a gold coin. They do not care where you parachute over. It could be Vietnam. It could be China. It could be anywhere. Anywhere in the world, that gold coin is recognized as money. And there is not any clearing problem, is there? You just hand it to somebody and they know what it is.
So that is what gold and silver represent anywhere on the planet, and a lot of people just do not get it. They do not get what value is, what real value money’s basis is, what honest money is all about. A lot of people do. There is a very small percentage. But people take for granted that everyone knows what gold is and yet ask them…a lot of people in some places have never seen it, like a certain currency or whatever. But that kind of money, gold money, silver money is recognized everywhere. So I definitely emphasize buying the physical metal first and have it in hand if you are okay with that. If not, have it in a secure location that you will have access to and you know it is there. After that is established, then I am a little looser. I am pretty free market. So the way I teach is to go in a top-tier cash rich un-hedged mining companies. I like big money and big companies. I am much more inclined to grow my wealth at 20, 25, 30% a year compounded than to buy every junior mining company out there that has got a story to tell.
I am not really that big on the story stock thing. We have done very well on some of them. I have lost on others. But I teach bet a little to win a lot. This is speculative money. Make sure it is a speculation. Sometimes people do not do what I teach. I cannot, again, control that, but I am very consistent with what I tell people. Right now the real sweet spot on the mining side is in the mid-tier sector, and that did so well for the first ten years I have kind of refocused the report now to emphasize that sector because that is where the real best risk-to-reward profile lies. But any of us that write in this sector, you have got to diversify even within the sector. Nothing is more frustrating than buying a mining company and only buying one and your goes down while many more are going up. You have to have a basket. No one is smart enough to give you a stock that is going to do well. You have to diversify throughout that sector. I hate a long list. Diversifying does not mean you have to have a hundred. I think ten or so is probably enough diversification. Who can track a hundred companies? I know I cannot
Chris Martenson: Excellent. So how is the Silver Summit 2011 shaping up?
David Morgan: Quite well, thank you, and we are not afraid to cover both sides. I mean, Jeff Christian and I, call us “friends” in quotation marks, we certainly do not agree on everything, but Jeff is invited every year. And I think it is good for people to hear both sides. I am not a know-it-all. I try to be a learn-it-all. I read a lot of stuff that I am opposed to, but I think it keeps my mind sharp. And I like to see the other side. I try to keep an open mind. I am skeptical but with an open mind.
My main core proposition is my mission statement and that revolves around the fact that fiat money has always failed. And if you do not think it is going to fail this time, then do not listen to this program and have a nice day. If you are concerned, then I think you should get better educated. And, Chris, I think you are one of the leaders in the field as far as educating people. You are a broader base than I am. I mean, I am pretty strong economically, especially on the Austrian School, but I am pretty focused on the metals themselves and mining. And that keeps me quite busy every day, but you have got a broader base looking at the oil situation. And I, coming back to what you said earlier, totally agree. I mean, I think you are not going to see the increase compounding two to three percent in the silver market that we have seen over the last eight years continue because of the energy situation, but I projected my analysis as if it would. In other words, to be concerned, I pretended as if we could keep mining at a three percent growth rate compounded for the next decade. I really, really doubt that is the case.
|2011-07-21 22:22 #206775|
|2011-07-21 23:08 #206785|
The Watcher [2011-07-21 08:02]:
nenusibodo varyt tas nuoruodas . .....propoganda veikia smegenis gerai cia kai .......
O, didysis išminčius pasirodė... Tas pats kuris tuoj tuoj savo garaže auksą su deimantais augins už centus... Ar kosmose su vandeniu iš Žemės skalaus uolienas ir pigiai išgaudinės metalus... Ar dar geriau tiesiai iš vandenyno papigiai, ar iš šiukšlynų perdirbinėti... He he he... Tikras negalima su entuziazmu... Nors pilna ir treideriuose čeburėkų kurie sidabro laukia po 17 baksų, ar watcherio tipo, kuriam viską duodi, išlukšteni, su padėkliuku prineši o čia tfu...
|2011-07-23 22:53 #207077|
Taaip, pas Waltzeką pats Kiyosakis užsuko... Abudu į vieną dūdą pučia dėl vario ir ypač dujų brangimo ( dujų iki penkių kartų). Vot šildymas brangs...
Antrasis svečias treideris iš Estijos, ieško netrukus pradėsiančių veikti kasyklų. Ir aišku auksas iki metų pabaigos turėtų pralenkti augimu sidabrą ir pasiekti 1700.
Ir daugelio egzpertų nuomonių:
Redaguota: Parshiukas (2011-07-23 23:30 )
|2011-07-25 17:28 #207250 1|
http://www.wtfnoway.com/ ......be komentaru.
|2011-07-25 21:16 #207279|
Šiaip kai Kuodis šnekėjo apie skolos limito padidinimą tai minėjo, kad visais istorijos atvejais skola buvo pakelta. Taip bus ir šį kartą, nėra kitos išeities. Taigi galima kritus kainai užsitavarinti realu, o ne popierium, kad vėl maržos reikalavimus pakėlinėtų kada nori, tipo kad panikos nebūtų...